apt-rpm roadmap

Gary Greene greeneg at phoenuxos.com
Wed Apr 26 12:58:23 PDT 2006


On Wednesday 26 April 2006 03:44 pm, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 18:40 +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
> > Here's my current wishlist :)
> >
> >  + Easier pinning support (more simple syntax with added functionality)
>
> Saner pinning (syntax) would indeed be welcome. Any specifics about
> added functionality, other than pinning by signature?
>
> >  + Mapping between signature(s) and repositories and pinning based on
> > signature
>
> Mapping between signatures and repos was is in my plans, just wasn't
> explicitly listed. Pinning on signature shouldn't be too hard once the
> signature handling is otherwise integrated.
>
> >  + Like smart the option to update when doing upgrade or install
> >    eg. apt-get --update upgrade
>
> A quick and dirty version of this is about ten lines of code, it'll just
> read the cache twice. Should be pretty trivial to do properly as well,
> just need to shuffle code around a bit in apt-get and apt-shell.
>
> >  + Delaying dropping older rpm releases as late as possible :)
> >
> > apt is currently the only solution that stretches (almost) from EL2.1
> > (+- RH7.2) to FC5. Smart and Yum fall short. Even on EL3 Smart doesn't
> > work and Yum is different (different options and functionality).
>
> Yup. That's a pretty strong "selling point" for apt in some environments
> and would be kinda sad to loose it. Newer libxml2 can be installed
> alongside old one if necessary and I'd certainly accept patches to make
> repomd (and thus libxml2) optional. It was in fact my original intention
> to make it optional, just haven't gotten around to do it.
>
> Anyway, I'm not in any particular hurry wrt removing support for old rpm
> versions. It might well be possible to sanitize the rpm code so the old
> stuff wouldn't get so much in the way - we'll see.
>
> > And EL3 will be around a long time still.
>
> EL3 is likely to be covered even if support for ancient rpm is dropped,
> the "new" rpmlib API was introduced in rpm-4.1 and has remained
> reasonably similar up to 4.4.x. So EL3 with it's rpm-4.2.1 is in the
> range of easily supportable versions.
>
> > Thanks a lot for continuing development !
> >
> > PS Somehow it made a big difference to the Debian colleagues that the
> > systems were 'managed' by Apt :)
>
> That's another selling point of apt, in some environments :)
>
> P.S. Your wishlist added to the roadmap, I'll be putting the list up on
> the website shortly once I've collected all the items there.

Just as an FYI, PhoeNUX OS, which uses Apt-rpm will be sticking with RPM 
v4.2.3 for the entirety of the 2006.x-2007.x series, So please do not remove 
support for that version.

-- 
Gary L. Greene, Jr.
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